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My 2nd great-grandmother Mary Dineen O’Donnell (b. April 1842 in Inishkeel Parish, County Donegal, Ireland), her son and my great-grandparents James Joseph O’Donnell (b. July 17, 1881 President St., Brooklyn, NY), and wife Charlotte Kerner Creen O’Donnell (b. November 26, 1886, Brooklyn, NY), grandson, son of James but not Charlotte – Charlotte is the mother of my grandmother Isabell Creen who married my grandfather, Lester Aloysius O’Donnell (b. August 30, 1908, Flatbush, Brooklyn, NY)
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Descendants of Michael and Mary Dundon or Dineen O’Donnell

NOTE: Mary’s maiden name is Dundon not Dineen – On the back of the photo I have it says Dineen? A puzzle. The only other thought I have is Mary’s mother’s maiden name was Dineen? Her Death certificate and her daughter Alice’s death certificate both say Dundon.

1 Michael O’DONNELL b: September 1838 in Mulnamin Beg, Inishkeel Parish, County Donegal, Ireland d: October 22, 1892 in Brooklyn, New York
.. +Mary Ellen DUNDON b: April 1842 in Ireland d: Aft. 1910 in New York m: Abt. 1863 in Donegal, Ireland
… 2 Alice Mary O’DONNELL b: December 1869 in New York d: in New York
……. +Eli A. KILLEN b: September 1870
……… 3 Alice T. KILLEN b: October 1893
…………. +Frank P. BRADY b: 1892
…………… 4 Frank BRADY b: 1922
……… 3 Albert J. KILLEN b: November 1896
……… 3 Ethel M. KILLEN b: October 1898
…………. +Robert E. GRIEBE b: 1897
…………… 4 Robert E. GRIEBE, Jr b: 1927
… 2 James Joseph O’DONNELL b: July 17, 1881 in New York City, New York d: December 8, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York
……. +Mary HARRIGAN b: June 1880 in Brooklyn, New York d: January 28, 1914 in Brooklyn, New York m: Abt. 1900 in New York
……… 3 Edwin O’DONNELL b: 1905 in New York d: in New York
…………. +LOUISE
……… 3 Lester Aloyisius O’DONNELL b: August 30, 1908 in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York d: March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York
…………. +Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1906 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in Queens County, New York m: 1923 in Brooklyn, New York
…………… 4 Teresa O’DONNELL b: June 23, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York
………………. +Alfred MODICA b: in Riverdale Bronx, New York m: September 7, 1947
…………… 4 Eugene Lester O’DONNELL b: November 9, 1929 in Brooklyn, New York d: February 24, 1961 in Los Angeles, California
………………. +Virginia Marilyn SAUNDERS b: July 13, 1928 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey m: Abt. 1950 in New York
…………… 4 Edwin Allen O’DONNELL b: June 10, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York  d. September 29, 2008 in Wayne, Nebraska
………………. +Bennie Bell Ann ARMSTRONG b: July 14, 1935 in Vinson, Oklahoma m: October 4, 1954 in Wichita, Kansas
…………… 4 Kenneth O’DONNELL b: June 18, 1934 in Brooklyn, New York
………………. +BETTY b: February 28, 1935 in Grenoch, Scotland d: October 28, 1984 in New York m: in New York
…………… 4 MaryAnn O’DONNELL b: July 19, 1936 in Brooklyn, New York
………………. +Timothy LACY b: in Yonkers, New York m: October 19, 1957 in New York
…………… 4 Robert George O’DONNELL b: January 1938 in Brooklyn, New York d: Abt. 2001 in Bronx, New York
………………. +Marilyn SWITKOW  b: in Georgia m: in Texas
…………… *2nd Wife of Robert George O’Donnell:
………………. +Susan DAILY b: 1949 in Yonkers, New York m: 1967 in Yonkers, New York
……… *2nd Wife of Lester Aloyisius O’Donnell:
…………. +Dorothy Mary SCHULTZ b: May 3, 1918 in New York City, New York d: January 20, 2006 in Yonkers, Winchester County, New York m: March 18, 1940 in New York City, New York
…………… 4 William O’DONNELL b: September 26, 1941 in New York
………………. +Gayle LANDRY
…………… *2nd Wife of William O’Donnell:
………………. +Marilyn POPE
…………… 4 Diane O’DONNELL b: 1943
………………. +James O’HANLON
…………… *2nd Husband of Diane O’Donnell:
………………. +Harald FRANK
…………… 4 Eileen J. O’DONNELL b: September 4, 1945 in New York City, New York
………………. +Russel D. PANOS b: in New York m: in New York
……… 3 James George O’DONNELL b: February 8, 1910 in Brooklyn, New York d: February 1969 in Brooklyn, New York
…………. +Isabelle CADIGAN b: 1911 in New York d: February 1989 in Brooklyn, New York
…………… 4 Unk O’DONNELL
……… 3 Leroy O’DONNELL b: January 23, 1914 in New York d: Aft. 1984 in New York
… *2nd Wife of James Joseph O’Donnell:
……. +Charlotte “Lottie” KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York m: 1923 in New York
……… 3 Charlotte Louise O’DONNELL b: January 20, 1927
…………. +VASSALLO
…………… 4 Diane VASSALLO
………………. +CABALLERO
……… 3 Albert P. O’DONNELL b: 1929
……… 3 John “Jack” O’DONNELL b: 1931

Russ and Eileen — two kids, Donald Joseph born abt 1961 and Brianne born about 1983?

Donald’s wife Antoinette Barbagallo Panos
Donald’s children –
Peter M Panos
Andrew G Panos
Tracy Lynn Bemis

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Kerner and Creen Census Records and More

Descendants of John Creen

1 John CREEN b: in New York
.. +Anna “Annie” MINER b: January 1854 in New York
… 2 Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York
……. +Charlotte “Lottie” KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York
……… 3 Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1905 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in Queens County, New York
…………. +Lester Aloyisius O’DONNELL b: August 30, 1908 in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York d: March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York m: 1923 in Brooklyn, New York
……… 3 Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b: December 15, 1908 in New York d: January 1985 in Riverhead, New York
…………. +Eleanor A. m: October 2, 1910
……… 3 Jessica CREEN b: 1912
… 2 Isabella CREEN b: February 1882
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UNSURE-
1850 Federal Census
367-317
John Creen, 19 bartender (all born in NY)
Mary Creen, 15 attended school
Alexander Creen, 7 attended school
James Creen, 3
They live at the same address as Rebecca? Cumings 40 (Value of realestate 1000, born Ireland)
Do they board? Is in Cumings a relative?
What happened to the parents?
Name: John Creen
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birth place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Lockport, Niagara, New York
Page: 22
Roll: M432_560
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?? Could Be
This could very likely be our John. They were known to be in OH and NY.
Listed in a missing ad- Date of ad 8-12-1854.
His brother was looking for him. Brother’s location – London, Madison County, OH
John Creen, arrival in US 1848- Ist location Onondaga County, NY
Home Kilkenny, Ireland, St. John’s Parish.
http://infowanted.bc.edu/record/?recid=13562
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1850 U.S. Census — any relation?
Name: Rufus P Creen
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: 1800
Birth Place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Butternuts, Otsego, New York
Hotel Keeper
Page: 222
Roll: M432_580
Lovina 40
Emma 18 F
Ira 9 M
Harriet 7 F
Rufus S. 2 M

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Name: Rufus S Creen (Son of Rufus P)
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: 1847
Birth Place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Butternuts, Otsego, New York
Page: 222
Roll: M432_580
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1900 Federal Census Borough of Manhattan, New York, New York June 4th
Name: Rufus Creen
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: 1885
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Manhattan, New York, New York; Roll: T623 1108; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 610.
Location- Broadway
Annie Creen Head 41, January 1854 – Three children, 2 living born NY, parents born NY
Isabella, Daughter 18 Feb 1882 NY Telephone Clerk
Rufus, Son 15, May 1885 NY Wagon Boy, Dry Goods
All can read and write
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April 16-1910 census
Brooklyn, Kings co., New york
renting at 65 Green Street (in Greenpoint part of Brooklyn, East River)
RUFUS J. CREEN–age 24 b. in New york
both parents born in New York
married 5 years
Occupation-Driver/Department Store
wife-LOTTIE–age 23 b. in New York
both parents born in new York
birthed 3 kids-2 living as of 1910
daughter-ISABEL J.–age 4 b. in New York
son-RUFUS J. Jr.–age 1 year 4 months b. in New York
Enumeration district # 365 sheet 3A
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Name: Rufus Creen
Age: 34 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1920: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Roll: T625_1167
Page: 5A
ED: 875
Image: 231

1920 Federal Census, Borough of Brooklyn, Kings Cty, NY January 6, 1920
157 Meeker Ave – a tenemant with about 6 families
Ruffus J. Creen, 34, Head 2+ (Not sure what 2+ means) Born NY, parents born NY- Driver for Sugar Co.
Charlotte -33, wife born NY, parents born NY
Isabell, 14 School
Rufus 11, School
Jessica 8, School
All can read and write
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1930 Federal Census
Name: Ruffus Creen
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1887 in Brooklyn, NY
Birthplace: New York
Roomer: with Oliver Orlando age 30 who is Italian and works for Edison Co- he is also listed as married
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Occupation: Elevator Operator (Employed)
Education: Can read and write
Military service: blank
Rent/home value: V$5.00
Age at first marriage: 20
Parents’ birthplace: Both born in Ireland
Owned a radio: No (Oliver does)
Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York; Roll: 1491; Page: 15A; Enumeration District: 925; Image: 706.0.
They pay $5.00 in rent
He has marital status as Married
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There are only 8 Creen families in all of NY state in the 1900 census. 7
of them were born in NY, PA or Ireland.
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The IGI- Philip Kerner found a RUFUS JOSEPH GREEN –
Father John, mother Annie Miner, spouse Lottie Kerner, 26 OCT 1904, Manhatten.
Batch # M005402.
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Descendants of Samuel L. James

1 Samuel L. JAMES b: in Scotland
… 2 William P. JAMES b: 1840 in London, England d: in New York
……. +Mary Knox WEIR b: 1840 in Glasgow, Scotland d: in New York
……… 3 Mary JAMES
……… 3 Jennie JAMES b: November 8, 1863 in New York d: Aft. 1930 in New York
…………. +Philipp KERNER b: June 15, 1862 in New York City, New York d: December 1920 in New York m: 1880 in Frankfurt, Germany or NY
……… 3 Samuel JAMES b: 1866 in Ohio
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Philip James’ family was from Scotland. His father was a lawyer for the House of Commons. Philip and Mary were members of the Presbyterian Church. They had two sons and three daughters. It is not known when the James’ came to New York.

1860 Census- NY County, NYC, NY 2nd Division, 13th Ward, June 11, 1860
William P. James- 30 England Counselor at Law Personal Value 200
Mary 31 – Scotland
Charlotte 3-
Jinney J. 2
William Watts 3
All children born in NY
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Ship Manifest — based on estimated year of James Birth
Philip James 13 Nov 1857 18 Male Liverpool, England Ireland United States of America Pomona
Traveling with John James age 20.
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Name: Philip James Arrival Date: 03 Feb 1853 Age: 7 Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: England Ship Name: Liverpool Port of Arrival: New York Line: 36 Microfilm Roll: 123 List Number: 58
Also traveling with Philip
Mary 29, Ann 9, Phillip 7, William and Sarah are 6 months old
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Missing Person- I found this and was curious because Mary wasn’t always with the family and also some feel the family came by way of Canada. http://infowanted.bc.edu/record/?recid=11741
Filed by Honora Fall, Cousin
Name: Mary James
Gender: Female
Date of advertisement: 01-07-1854
Contact name: Henderson, C.H.
Contact address: NY, Addison,Steuben C
Home County: Clare
Parish: Killone
Townland: Killark
Barony: Islands
Poor-Law: Ennis
1st location: Quebec
Departure date: 53/07
Arrival date:
Intended destination: Quebec
Port of Departure: Limerick
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Age: 13
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Descendants of Johannes Jacobus Kerner

1 Johannes Jacobus KERNER b: in Havenstein Bayern, Rhineland Phalz, Bavaria
.. +Francisca ANKER m: July 17, 1820 in Catholic Church in Havenstein
… 2 Peter Petrus KOERNER b: December 9, 1833 in Germany
……. +Louisa MUNCH b: 1823 in Germany m: Bef. June 1862
……… 3 Charles KERNER b: 1876
……… 3 Jacob KERNER b: 1860
……… 3 Philipp KERNER b: June 15, 1862 in New York City, New York d: December 1920 in New York
…………. +Jennie JAMES b: November 8, 1863 in New York d: Aft. 1930 in New York m: 1880 in Frankfurt, Germany or NY
…………… 4 Charlotte “Lottie” KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York
………………. +Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York
…………… *2nd Husband of Charlotte “Lottie” Kerner:
………………. +James Joseph O’DONNELL b: July 17, 1881 in New York City, New York d: December 8, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York m: 1923 in New York
…………… 4 Phillip KERNER b: May 1889
…………… 4 Jessica May KERNER b: May 1896
………………. +John J. ROLSTON
…………… 4 May KERNER b: July 1899
……… 3 Elizabeth KERNER
……… 3 Peter KERNER
…………. +Elizabeth LAUL m: October 14, 1889
… 2 Christiana KOERNER b: 1822
… 2 Barbara KOERNER
… 2 Johannes Jocobi KOERNER
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Here is the 1880 census of Peter Kerner, you will notice that Mary, the daughter who was born in 1863/64 so they came after she was born since she was born in Baden also.

Peter KERNER Self M Male W 45 BADEN Retail Bakery BADEN
BADEN
Louisa (Munch) KERNER Wife M Female W 38 BADEN Keeps House BADEN BADEN
Philip KERNER Son S Male W 18 NY Laborer BADEN BADEN
Jacob KERNER Son S Male W 6 NY At School BADEN BADEN
Charles KERNER Son S Male W 4 NY BADEN BADEN
Mary KERNER Dau S Female W 16 BADEN At Home BADEN BADEN
Source Information:
Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
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1900 Census, Manhatten, District 937, NYC, NY
Location of family – # 403 East 118th Street
Philip Kerner 38 (Nov 1862) married 15 years, Baker born NY, parents Germany
Jennie 37 (Nov. 1863) 7 children, 4 living, born NY, Father England, Mother Scotland
Lottie- 13 (Nov. 1887)
Philip 11 (May 1889)
Jessie- 4 (May 1896)
Mary- 1 (July 1899)
Family has radio, Rent Home, Can read and write
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Grandparents Jennie James and Phil Kerner had four children:
*Charlotte (my mother) the oldest
*Phillip 2nd child (letter carrier)
*Jesse 3rd 3 daughters, 4 sons
*May 4th no children
The family lived in Harlem. Grandfather (Phiip) was a “BAKER” for the prison system and
commute by ferry to Blackwells Island hich wasn’t to far from Harlem. Perhaps the NYC
census for Harlem might give you some clues. Jack O’D

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Descendants of John Creen

Descendants of John Creen

1 John CREEN b: in New York
.. +Anna “Annie” MINER b: January 1854 in New York
… 2 Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York
……. +Charlotte “Lottie” KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York
……… 3 Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1905 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in Queens County, New York
…………. +Lester Aloyisius O’DONNELL b: August 30, 1908 in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York d: March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York m: 1923 in Brooklyn, New York
……… 3 Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b: December 15, 1908 in New York d: January 1985 in Riverhead, New York
…………. +Eleanor A. m: October 2, 1910
……… 3 Jessica CREEN b: 1912
… 2 Isabella CREEN b: February 1882
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UNSURE-
1850 Federal Census
367-317
John Creen, 19 bartender (all born in NY)
Mary Creen, 15 attended school
Alexander Creen, 7 attended school
James Creen, 3
They live at the same address as Rebecca? Cumings 40 (Value of realestate 1000, born Ireland)
Do they board? Is in Cumings a relative?
What happened to the parents?
Name: John Creen
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birth place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Lockport, Niagara, New York
Page: 22
Roll: M432_560
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?? Could Be
This could very likely be our John. They were known to be in OH and NY.
Listed in a missing ad- Date of ad 8-12-1854.
His brother was looking for him. Brother’s location – London, Madison County, OH
John Creen, arrival in US 1848- Ist location Onondaga County, NY
Home Kilkenny, Ireland, St. John’s Parish.
http://infowanted.bc.edu/record/?recid=13562
______________________________
1850 U.S. Census —
Name: Rufus P Creen
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: 1800
Birth Place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Butternuts, Otsego, New York
Hotel Keeper
Page: 222
Roll: M432_580
Lovina 40
Emma 18 F
Ira 9 M
Harriet 7 F
Rufus S. 2 M

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Name: Rufus S Creen (Son of Rufus P)
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: 1847
Birth Place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Butternuts, Otsego, New York
Page: 222
Roll: M432_580
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1900 Federal Census Borough of Manhattan, New York, New York June 4th
Name: Rufus Creen
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: 1885
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Manhattan, New York, New York; Roll: T623 1108; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 610.
Location- Broadway
Annie Creen Head 41, January 1854 – Three children, 2 living born NY, parents born NY
Isabella, Daughter 18 Feb 1882 NY Telephone Clerk
Rufus, Son 15, May 1885 NY Wagon Boy, Dry Goods
All can read and write
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April 16-1910 census
Brooklyn, Kings co., New york
renting at 65 Green Street (in Greenpoint part of Brooklyn, East River)
RUFUS J. CREEN–age 24 b. in New york
both parents born in New York
married 5 years
Occupation-Driver/Department Store
wife-LOTTIE–age 23 b. in New York
both parents born in new York
birthed 3 kids-2 living as of 1910
daughter-ISABEL J.–age 4 b. in New York
son-RUFUS J. Jr.–age 1 year 4 months b. in New York
Enumeration district # 365 sheet 3A
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Name: Rufus Creen
Age: 34 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1920: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Roll: T625_1167
Page: 5A
ED: 875
Image: 231

1920 Federal Census, Borough of Brooklyn, Kings Cty, NY January 6, 1920
157 Meeker Ave – a tenemant with about 6 families
Ruffus J. Creen, 34, Head 2+ (Not sure what 2+ means) Born NY, parents born NY- Driver for Sugar Co.
Charlotte -33, wife born NY, parents born NY
Isabell, 14 School
Rufus 11, School
Jessica 8, School
All can read and write
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1930 Federal Census
Name: Ruffus Creen
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1887 in Brooklyn, NY
Birthplace: New York
Roomer: with Oliver Orlando age 30 who is Italian and works for Edison Co- he is also listed as married
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Occupation: Elevator Operator (Employed)
Education: Can read and write
Military service: blank
Rent/home value: V$5.00
Age at first marriage: 20
Parents’ birthplace: Both born in Ireland
Owned a radio: No (Oliver does)
Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York; Roll: 1491; Page: 15A; Enumeration District: 925; Image: 706.0.
They pay $5.00 in rent
He has marital status as Married
________________________________________________________
There are only 8 Creen families in all of NY state in the 1900 census. 7
of them were born in NY, PA or Ireland.
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The IGI- Philip Kerner found a RUFUS JOSEPH GREEN –
Father John, mother Annie Miner, spouse Lottie Kerner, 26 OCT 1904, Manhatten.
Batch # M005402.
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Descendants of Samuel L. James

1 Samuel L. JAMES b: in Scotland
… 2 William P. JAMES b: 1840 in London, England d: in New York
……. +Mary Knox WEIR b: 1840 in Glasgow, Scotland d: in New York
……… 3 Mary JAMES
……… 3 Jennie JAMES b: November 8, 1863 in New York d: Aft. 1930 in New York
…………. +Philipp KERNER b: June 15, 1862 in New York City, New York d: December 1920 in New York m: 1880 in Frankfurt, Germany or NY
……… 3 Samuel JAMES b: 1866 in Ohio
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Philip James’ family was from Scotland. His father was a lawyer for the House of Commons. Philip and Mary were members of the Presbyterian Church. They had two sons and three daughters. It is not known when the James’ came to New York.

1860 Census- NY County, NYC, NY 2nd Division, 13th Ward, June 11, 1860
William P. James- 30 England Counselor at Law Personal Value 200
Mary 31 – Scotland
Charlotte 3-
Jinney J. 2
William Watts 3
All children born in NY
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Ship Manifest — based on estimated year of James Birth
Philip James 13 Nov 1857 18 Male Liverpool, England Ireland United States of America Pomona
Traveling with John James age 20.
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Name: Philip James Arrival Date: 03 Feb 1853 Age: 7 Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: England Ship Name: Liverpool Port of Arrival: New York Line: 36 Microfilm Roll: 123 List Number: 58
Also traveling with Philip
Mary 29, Ann 9, Phillip 7, William and Sarah are 6 months old
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Missing Person- I found this and was curious because Mary wasn’t always with the family and also some feel the family came by way of Canada. http://infowanted.bc.edu/record/?recid=11741
Filed by Honora Fall, Cousin
Name: Mary James
Gender: Female
Date of advertisement: 01-07-1854
Contact name: Henderson, C.H.
Contact address: NY, Addison,Steuben C
Home County: Clare
Parish: Killone
Townland: Killark
Barony: Islands
Poor-Law: Ennis
1st location: Quebec
Departure date: 53/07
Arrival date:
Intended destination: Quebec
Port of Departure: Limerick
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Age: 13
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Descendants of Johannes Jacobus Kerner

1 Johannes Jacobus KERNER b: in Havenstein Bayern, Rhineland Phalz, Bavaria
.. +Francisca ANKER m: July 17, 1820 in Catholic Church in Havenstein
… 2 Peter Petrus KOERNER b: December 9, 1833 in Germany
……. +Louisa MUNCH b: 1823 in Germany m: Bef. June 1862
……… 3 Charles KERNER b: 1876
……… 3 Jacob KERNER b: 1860
……… 3 Philipp KERNER b: June 15, 1862 in New York City, New York d: December 1920 in New York
…………. +Jennie JAMES b: November 8, 1863 in New York d: Aft. 1930 in New York m: 1880 in Frankfurt, Germany or NY
…………… 4 Charlotte “Lottie” KERNER b: November 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959 in New York
………………. +Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York
…………… *2nd Husband of Charlotte “Lottie” Kerner:
………………. +James Joseph O’DONNELL b: July 17, 1881 in New York City, New York d: December 8, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York m: 1923 in New York
…………… 4 Phillip KERNER b: May 1889
…………… 4 Jessica May KERNER b: May 1896
………………. +John J. ROLSTON
…………… 4 May KERNER b: July 1899
……… 3 Elizabeth KERNER
……… 3 Peter KERNER
…………. +Elizabeth LAUL m: October 14, 1889
… 2 Christiana KOERNER b: 1822
… 2 Barbara KOERNER
… 2 Johannes Jocobi KOERNER
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Here is the 1880 census of Peter Kerner, you will notice that Mary, the daughter who was born in 1863/64 so they came after she was born since she was born in Baden also.

Peter KERNER Self M Male W 45 BADEN Retail Bakery BADEN
BADEN
Louisa (Munch) KERNER Wife M Female W 38 BADEN Keeps House BADEN BADEN
Philip KERNER Son S Male W 18 NY Laborer BADEN BADEN
Jacob KERNER Son S Male W 6 NY At School BADEN BADEN
Charles KERNER Son S Male W 4 NY BADEN BADEN
Mary KERNER Dau S Female W 16 BADEN At Home BADEN BADEN
Source Information:
Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
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1900 Census, Manhatten, District 937, NYC, NY
Location of family – # 403 East 118th Street
Philip Kerner 38 (Nov 1862) married 15 years, Baker born NY, parents Germany
Jennie 37 (Nov. 1863) 7 children, 4 living, born NY, Father England, Mother Scotland
Lottie- 13 (Nov. 1887)
Philip 11 (May 1889)
Jessie- 4 (May 1896)
Mary- 1 (July 1899)
Family has radio, Rent Home, Can read and write
_______________________________
Grandparents Jennie James and Phil Kerner had four children:
*Charlotte (my mother) the oldest
*Phillip 2nd child (letter carrier)
*Jesse 3rd 3 daughters, 4 sons
*May 4th no children
The family lived in Harlem. Grandfather (Phiip) was a “BAKER” for the prison system and
commute by ferry to Blackwells Island hich wasn’t to far from Harlem. Perhaps the NYC
census for Harlem might give you some clues. Jack O’D

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